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Post by melissa on Apr 6, 2013 20:21:28 GMT
Hey, only just saw this (been at work all day). I agree with what's been said so far I think. Love that picture - so cute! - but I don't think it really goes with the design. I was very conscious while making the logo that I wanted the design to be linked to the theme and the meaning of 'flux' - namely something that is flowing, connected to water and movement etc. so at the moment this picture doesn't really fit that, and feels like it jars a little. Do you know what I mean?
I would like to have his work in it though, so...I wonder of he could make something to do with waves? It should be something to do with water. Maybe a clock on a beach and a wave washing it away? Or a book floating on top of the water? Think it needs to be relevant. What do people think?
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Post by clairealexander on Apr 6, 2013 20:23:34 GMT
Cool, cool. This is starting to come together...
Perhaps when the clock is built it could come to life, get a fright from a passing tortoise and fall to pieces?!
Ok... the tortoise makes no sense. But I do like the idea that the clock gets a fright and falls apart... hehe.
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Post by melissa on Apr 6, 2013 20:28:14 GMT
Also... I kind of think the illustrations should be kind of delicate/elegant rather than cute. I don't really think there should be a person in it either. I wonder even if it might be better to have maybe four full pages of illustrations rather than one running along the bottom? Although I do like the flipping page idea in theory.
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Post by melissa on Apr 6, 2013 20:44:28 GMT
...also I don't know if building a clock would be quite right. As an idea it is quite cool, but in terms of the name 'flux' which we chose, I don't think it really suits the theme. Clocks - to me - represent a very fixed sort of time, where the name flux suggests something more fluid. More to do with change and memories and things passing etc.
So yes, think a clock being washed away could be quite good. He doesn't need to do that exact idea... but I feel very (very) strongly that if we are having an illustration, it needs to be connected to water. Even a boat bobbing on the water or something.
Sorry to disagree. Just have been very intentional about lots of the design decisions I've made so far, even if it might not be too obvious on the surface, so don't want to have an illustration that jars with them.
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Post by clairealexander on Apr 6, 2013 20:50:30 GMT
Ok, so how about the castle being built and washed away by the tide?
How could we incorporate the elegance you are looking for?
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Post by David Rush on Apr 6, 2013 21:11:54 GMT
I was thinking.
What about pages of a book floating in water that begin to whirl as the pages turn?
Then it's combining literature, fluctuation and the water theme.
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Post by melissa on Apr 6, 2013 21:22:55 GMT
Yeah, I quite like that idea...
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Post by melissa on Apr 6, 2013 21:41:52 GMT
Just had a wee peek at the artist's flickr page, and I really like the flowing shape of this picture www.flickr.com/photos/osm_art/3426193831/in/set-72157601302495420 Would be good to have something that had a shape kind of like that (although, obviously not a robot, haha  ). What do you think Claire? Maybe just ask him what comes to mind when thinking of the idea of 'flux' and movement, flowing, time passing etc if it was to be linked to water? He probably wouldn't want us to be too restrictive... When do we need to decide by? If we could wait till after the 19th, I wonder whether Dean and I could maybe speak to him with you and go over a few ideas? Could maybe meet for a coffee or something if he had time? |
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Post by clairealexander on Apr 6, 2013 21:44:45 GMT
I feel like there is a bit of confusion about what we can ask Neil to do.
The ideas I'm suggesting, I have previously discussed with Neil. It is not the case that we can just ask him to draw out an idea for us. He is a professional artist and the deal was that he would give us his approach to time just as we have. Granted, we're paying him, however this is at a reduced rate because we are buddies.
I brought examples of Neil's work into class. His style is cute sketches of people and it was my understanding that the team had a positive reaction towards his work and agreed to me making contact regarding a commission of this sort.
I'm not comfortable asking Neil to produce specific artwork and while I'm happy to give him a brief such as 'including water' or 'clocks' I think it is within his right as an artist to react to the brief as he sees fit.
Based on this, how should I present our request for his artwork?
Something which involves water?
I mean, we can be more specific than this but as he is doing this for us on the cheap I think we need to be careful to respect his creative freedom somewhat.
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Post by michelle_mod on Apr 6, 2013 22:05:11 GMT
I think this is something that really needs to be thrashed out in person at the meeting on Monday - everyone have a good think about it and we can come to an agreement on what exactly we want the illustration to do including ideas for possible content and what the main focus of the theme is - time or flux?
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Post by David Rush on Apr 6, 2013 22:14:07 GMT
Yes, Michelle, I think that'd be best.
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Post by Gemma on Apr 6, 2013 23:07:24 GMT
I think we should definitely discuss this at the meeting. But here's my thoughts anyway. This is so cute. and yes it is a reflection of exactly what you showed us (that we all liked) and what we asked him to produce. He has done a great job. I really like this image. But I prefer Claire's suggestion about the sandcastle getting washed away by the water. I think it fits perfectly with the theme and also has the water part (I agree Melissa I also feel strongly that the illustration would fit a lot better if it was to do with water). I think his style of drawing although cute could still be worked into our design. Basically- I really want the sandcastle! Lol You are all welcome. I have truly made no helpful input to this debate. As usual  Gemma x |
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Post by michelle_mod on Apr 7, 2013 8:31:23 GMT
I have been thinking about this what about if the waves take the sand castle and wash up a message in a bottle zoom in on the message and it a little girl with a sandcastle and repeat. I think this captures several ideas including the cyclical nature of time and the fact that though life often takes things away from us it can also give back.
Just a thought
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Post by jennacouston on Apr 7, 2013 9:29:38 GMT
I really like Claire's suggestion about the sandcastle getting washed away by the waves, too. It has an element of childhood nostalgia about it, and I think this fits in perfectly with our theme of "time" and how time leaves "nothing unchanged". There's something quite charming about it, and yet it's sort of sad at the same time, if that makes sense  . |
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Post by melissa on Apr 7, 2013 9:35:58 GMT
Yeah I quite like that idea too or the one about the clock getting washed away. And yep, I think that sounds like a good idea Claire - maybe just suggesting that we'd like it to be related to water and something flowing/passing. Don't want to limit his 'brief' too much. At the moment I'm not completely sure whether I'm able to come in tomorrow. Wasn't well at the start of the week so kind of knocked all my essay plans off balance. Will let you know by tomorrow though. Hope you all have a good day. Away to work! |
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). What do you think Claire? Maybe just ask him what comes to mind when thinking of the idea of 'flux' and movement, flowing, time passing etc if it was to be linked to water? He probably wouldn't want us to be too restrictive... 
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